Turris Omnia 2022

Question, why shell out ~4 times the money for 10 Gps SFP modules if your network only uses 1 Gbps? I wonder how many home -users are already all-10-Gbps? So if the connected devices do not actually support 10 G, buying 6 such modules seems like an expensive exercise… that is all I am saying :wink: not that all 10G would not be nice to have.

And yes, SFK cages allow to match and mix different PHYs, but for a typical home network that is only partially useful… at least right now. After all CatX is relatively easy to deploy (either via ready-made cables of the required length or by mounting sockets and “fixed” cables) fiber not yet (but there are systems available for using fiber in one’s home more easily).

But these are all just “grapes that are to sour anyway” as this is likely outside of my budget :wink:

But the product will be Omnia Enterprise, which means this product is targeted to the offices, and companies etc… mainly. This is the same as you buy an enterprise Cisco switch at home. You pay many for that, but if you need it at home, you buy it. If it’ll be enterprise product, a higher price is expected, but also higher quality and performance.

But it was always also described as the successor of the turris omnia…

No, not exactly… this is putting too much stock into the “enterprise” marketing name for the coming turris device, IMHO.

Yes, as I said this is a bi of a marketing ploy to manage the expectations… I am pretty sure if turris could profitable offer the turris enterprise features at the turris omnia price point they would do so, enterprise moniker or not :wink:

But I think you are right and it just happens that I am not the target audience for the turris enterprise and the name was selected to make that point effortlessly obvious. No hard feelings one way or the other.

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I do have a 10g network (with a couple 40g devices) at home. Assuming this thing can also switch at 10g, it has potential to be a great deal by virtue of also replacing a 6-port managed switch (which would cost about $200 on its own).

I think I’d probably want to see at least one RJ45 port though, even if it’s just a 1g port as a backup management port. DAC is by far the cheapest option for a 10g+ connection, but I figure most users will probably still have some copper devices since a lot of prosumer gear seems to be going the copper route.

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Since you can now get >1gbps internet connections it seems reasonable to have SFP cages and 10gbps support. Customer can choose what SFP modules they want - way better than say any of the choices for MOX.

You know, one thing that slightly worries me is that the spec sheet only lists M.2 slots, and no miniPCIe. mPCIe seems to still be the interface of choice for many of the better AP-side WiFi cards. Really hoping it’s 3x M.2 plus 2 mPCIe.

Oh, and while we’re at it, what about having a slot with extra space around it for those huge Compex cards?

Why? There are M.2⇨ mPCIe adapters available.

Have you tried usin one? These usually introduce a lot of noise on the PCI lanes and many cards cannot work correctly. Not speaking about the fact that you are converting from a small card to a larger one, so there are also space issues. And the converters with flex cables are even worse.

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You are right, but I’d also go the future proven way and not forsee any legacy interfaces.
Regarding your question: yes I used a M.2-mPCIe adapter in the past to attach a spare WLE200N2 in my X86-server.
There are high quality adapters available (e.g. German brand Delock), riser cable/cards are admittedly a different story.

FYI > https://nitter.net/turris_cz/status/1635581821197926400#m

At first place I want a power on/off button.
It is very primitive wo such button. Many years ago someone designed a router wo a button and then it became standard, horrible.

Edit: I mean proper reset and shutdown by invoking system cmds such as reboot and power off, not like cutting electricity.
Current standard reset buttons just cut electricity, ahahaha.

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Of course! But, it’s small nuisance - hidden reset button is much more worse. Want both.

There was an interesting response from the Turris team on Twitter (Must be translated if you dont know Czech - Like me :smiley:) > https://nitter.net/turris_cz/status/1635922909737758720#m

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The response translates into this (with the help of deepl.com):

Last year, the Turris Omnia underwent something of a refresh in the form of Wi-Fi 6. We’re not planning more in its category anytime soon although we’ll definitely be moving to ARMv8 at the very least over time. The products mentioned are extensions of the offerings to segments where Omnia is too much (SG1) or not enough (Enterprise).

The refreshed 32bit-only Omnia with WIFI6 is still not available from their foreign partners.
The SG1 is still a prototype.

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OK translation.

I believe https://discomp.cz sends worldwide. I’ve heard that some consider their shipping expensive, but for expensive packages like whole Omnia it might be more bearable.

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No news here? :cry:

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Following this information

it will be launched until September 2023. I’m curious what the price will be like…

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Moreover we do have September and I haven’t seen any news about the launch of the 10Gbps flagship based on NXP Router whatsoever.

Is it again moved to a later date?

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i wonder, since this new baby only has fiber i/o, does it make sense to use it with fiber<>RJ45 adapters?

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If that is your use case - for sure.
But remember that 10GBE gets quite hot while fibre stays completely cold (much lower power consumption).

Would be great to have a compatible SFP-module, that provides 2,5 Gbit connectivity and thus directly connect old TO (dump but powerful APs) to this new enterprise TO (heart of the network/router-server).

September seems to be half gone without any news… :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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