Turris Omnia Enterprise / SG1 / 2

Just realized that the Omnia Enterprise & 2 have finally been presented, and in case of the former given a release date & price tag! Well the latter, given it’s design stage, also kinda got a release window …like not before 2025 maybe even 2026 :wink:.
Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlS14P_c4Q4 (great talk btw, you should really put these on youtube yourselfs)

I think it’s awesome! Finally an arm64 omnia successor is on the horizon. Enterprise will be total overkill for me, but still, even at ~$900, it’s an good deal given how well omnia has served me since its kickstarter.
I really only badly need an arm64 (pi 5 16GB like) with dual SFP+ and the switch chip on the original omnia with the turris magic. But since Omnia 2 will come much later, likely even without dual SFP+ and almost zero chance of more pcie lanes than enterprise, that won’t cut it.

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I somehow miss the question or message. What exactly do you want to state with this post? (Don’t wan’t to be offensive, but Omnia 2022/etc has been discussed quite a lot in another that already)

Thank you very much for pointing this update out. I had completely missed it.

I also want dual SFP+ ports. I don’t actually see the point of a single 2.5gb port on the Omnia’s successor. If you can get the traffic in, I would want to be able to get all the bandwidth to at least a single switch (so, 2x ports at max speed). Also, please offer it in a configuration without WIFI!

I’ll almost certainly be going the Enterprise route for my little home network (10gb internally). I couldn’t tell from the photo if it was a single or double, but I do ask that we get at least 2 USB ports, please. I don’t know if the use case of attaching a UPS has been considered for this type of gear. That sucks up a port for me with a critical task directly.

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I was btw wondering about two things.

  • What pci-e version will be the M.2 nvme slot?
  • What speed will be the best speed for the SO-DIMM RAM modules to communicate with the ARM CPU?

Curious abot this myself.

I thought I’d replace my Omnia + TL-SX105 combo with a Qotom Q20332G9 + EAP615-Wall (I want the NAS and the PC to connect to each other at 10G, even though my ISP is at 1G).

Pretty expensive bad idea - while I got 4 SPF+ ports, it seems that there’s no switch in/near the Intel X553s that services those ports (either that, or I don’t know how to configure the thing; PC-NAS speeds were atrocious and unstable - sub-1G -, at least on OpenWRT 23.5.2 - despite the CPU load being negligible). And I really don’t want to go BSD unless I have no choice…

So I guess, two questions.

  1. Can I expect proper 10G speeds with the OmniaEnt? Basically I want 600MB/s sustained, 'cause the SSDs in the NAS are SATA.
  2. Will it run OpenWRT? (TurrisOS will do :slight_smile: )
  3. (assuming the answer to the previous q’s is “yes”) any idea when/where would I be able to source the thing?

Cheers,
Mircea

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Kindly asking about further details, that is not covered in https://secure.nic.cz/files/Turris/230307_Turris_letak_Omnia_Enterprise_verze_B.pdf

avaliable speed on interfaces for data storage - microSD, NVM,… - also on RAM and possible ECC - might be nice to have.

Maybe USB 3.0 is a bit outdated? USB 3.2 Gen2 possible - would be nice to have an option for SOHO use.

Can we see the new enterprise device in late 2024?

Thanks,
Vienna

PS: Found something - Layerscape® LX2160A, LX2120A, LX2080A Processors | NXP Semiconductors - 2016 - a good choice for 2024 systems? As there is a more recent version Layerscape® 2088A and 2048A | NXP Semiconductors with ECC…

LX2080A
Cores 8
L2 cache 8MB
SerDes 24
PCIe Up to 6x Gen3
DDR 2x DDR4, Up to 3200MT/s, 256GB capacity
Plat cache + PEB 10MB
WRIOP 16 simultaneous MACs; combos of up to 16x 1GE, 10x 1/2.5/10GE, 6x 25GE, or 2x 40/50/100GE; L2 switching up to 114Gbps
SEC Up to 50Gbps
DCE Up to 100Gbps
Package 40 x 40 mm, 1517 pins

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Here’s a video by Tuxedo Computers from CLT (Chemnitzer Linux Tage) March 16th/17th which has the most recent info regarding new Turris products: Powerful routers with deeply customizable hardware and software - TURRIS

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Omnia Enterprise - later this year
Upgraded Omnia - next year
The small AP thingy was only mentioned briefly as a potential future product.

They still have only the three prototypes of the Omnia Enterprise, so I wouldn’t be so sure about the “later this year” deadline…

Would really be nice if we could get updates from Turris folks right here on the forum…

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What is this upgraded Omnia? Still a 1 Gbit/s ports Omnia?

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He mentioned the SFP is 10gig and the switch ports are 2.5 gig. I’m guessing they will also upgrade the CPU to armv8 (aarch64).

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I’m actually more excited by this than by Omnia Enterprise which I think will be beyond my needs (and budget!) for the foreseeable future.

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If there is someone with more info on the upcoming omnia?

Will there be support in the enterprise for 5V and MKey E for 4x4 wificards?

Eg. https://compex.com.sg/shop/wifi-module/wlw3000h6-11ax-6e-6ghz-qcn9024-qcn9074/

Please, please have Wi-Fi 7 to reap benefits like multi-link operation across three bands since major phone vendors are now shipping with Wi-Fi 7 like the iPhone 16 :crossed_fingers:

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Can you please provide some updates? In 3 months I will install a 10 Gbit/s internet connection and I would like to buy a Turris Omnia Enterprise, but you are not yet providing any estimate of its release

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Thank you. So more or less we will see it in a year. It would have been great to be able to read that news in an official Turris news, rather than in a Youtube video which is way harder to find

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It looks like embedding of the video is blocked. But it does work if you click on it in an email notification or click on the video title — it opens YouTube in a separate tab and that ain’t blocked.

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The gist of it:

New Enterprise Device

Still no working prototype. Delayed because of very hard to pinpoint hardware issues.

  • Expected market release in 2025
  • Expected retail price below USD 1,000
  • 8 x 1.8GHz Cortex A-72
  • 6 x 10Gbps SFP+
  • up to 64GB RAM

Turris Omnia NG

Specs are still changing, but probably something along the lines of …

  • 4 x 2.2Ghz Cortex ARMv8
  • 2 GB RAM
  • 4 x 2.5Gbps
  • 2 x 10 Gbps
  • WiFi 7
  • Lesser price then Enterprise device
  • Expected market release in 2025

Turris OS 7.1

  • ReForis dark mode
  • Switch to nftables (incl. migration)
  • Turris Sentinel will block IPv6 too

Turris OS 8.0

  • OpenWrt 23.05

Turris 9.0 (~2025)

  • OpenWrt 24.x
  • Kernel 6.6
  • Support for the new devices

Also …

  • Easier branch switching with upcoming switch-branch command in concert with snapshots.
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  • Rewrited reForis.
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