Operating temperature


#22

Looking good! Did you test your design? And, if so, what are your findings?

A few updates later the temperature of my unit is:

root@turris:~# thermometer
CPU: 66

root@turris:~# sensors
armada_thermal-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +66.5°C

Looks pretty good to me, but I don’t really stress my router. No LXC containers and such :wink:


#23

the cooler looks good.

i have changed the thermal pad to arctic cooling pads (ref actpd00005A) wich lowered 10ºC (Before was 72 and now im getting 61) and the case now its more warmer than before.

the next test its change thermal pad to artic ceramique and see how much lowers the temp.


#24

you mean th one on top of the processor cooler? but mine is actually 2mm thick and quick googling says actpd00005A is 0,5mm?


#25

i have changed the lower pad the sticky pad (in the processor). the original 2mm thick its on the top of the aluminium block , ther arctic pad its 1mm thickness

I changed the arctic pad with artic ceramique and now it getting 59ºc in the CPU…
all temperatures in idle

Im keeping testing it now im going to test 15min with stress app

after test (15min stress ) the max temp archieved it 83ºC with arctic ceramique


#26

where do you get the stress app? does not seem to be in available
opkg list | grep stress

also on Raspberry the CPU gets the hottest using memtester, probably because RAM is in the same case as CPU (not the case for Omnia)

opkg does not know about memtester either


#27

make a opkg update first


#28

thanks :slight_smile:
still no memtester though


#29

Finally with 2 layers thermal pad on top for proper contact with case (slighty presure) and 1 layer of thermal pad on the cpu im gettin after 15min stress 81ºC . in idle im still getting 61ºC

the heatsink its the stock aluminium Block that cames with case. No fan

thermal past for me its no a option becase doesnt make presure with case and

thermal pad its arctic thermal pad 1mm


#30

My new concept:


#31

It’s a nice design, but the question what we have to ask our self. Does design benefit from losing the heat that is gaining?

If i would follow logic, i would say, make it possible that through the wholes on the sides of the Omnia, would come even a little breeze that takes the heat away the through the other side. So the design that you have isn’t really guiding the heat away if a little breeze would come through one side of the Omnia.

Breeze/out<------->holes Omnia<--------->Heatsink<------>holes Omnia<------>out/Breeze

When you have heatsinks like this,

hot air that is radiating is being taken away. Think about it, maybe i am wrong and missing something, so do not hesitate to correct me.


#32

In principle, the heat sink is designed only for where, when there is no original casing or the board only.


#33

The aluminium block is hold on the processor only by the sticky pad ?
Is it hard to remove it ?


#34

… larger thermal-pads inside and a heatsink.


#35

It would be interesting to replace aluminum thermal bridge for copper thermal bridge (thermal conductivity of copper is more than 1.5 better than alumin). Didn’t you try it?


#36

Hello, interesting! I am not sure how passive block is sealed down there, if it doesnt use glue or something, as I didnt see mechanical press spring or something.

You just dismount it by power, clean processor, use something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Ceramique-Compound-CMQ2-2-7G/dp/B0087X73AM and leave original top sticky pad to contact with case?


#37

i dismounted the cooler (aluminium block) and changed the Sticky pad from processor with quality pad (arctic thermal pad.) the top sticky i changed too with arctic thermal pad in my case with 2 layers of pad because i havent 1.5mm thermal pad

the sticky pad its easy to remove (its like double sided tape). i remember that sticky pad doesnt contact well with processor around the suface, so the problem its here because it isnt able to transfer properly heat

you can try with arctic ceramique but in my test i prefer thermal pad because act like and spring with the case and after test i get more stable temp along time

Other option its get adhesive thermal paste but i dont want anything permanent.

my recommendations its to get this http://a.co/8SNl4Jj put one on top and other in the bottom and see if the pad acts like a spring with the case.(i estimate that the clearance from aluminum block its 3mm so this pads its going to be perfect.)
The only issues it be careful when you move it because can be loose the alumium and make a short circuit

the top pad doesnt have good thermal conductivity after testing it compared to arctic pad.

Copper is better at conducting heat than aluminum, but aluminum is able to radiate the heat into the air better than copper because of its lower density. SO for this i prefer aluminium because only need to radiate heat

next test its put a thermal sensor to see the real temp on top the procesor (to see if the procesor sensor its OK o its have a error)


#38

this does not make any sense, aluminium and cooper at the same temperature will radiate the same, it does not depend on the density

cooper will get hotter due to better conductivity, so it will also radiate more

the problem might be the copper weight, as it will be more difficult to hold it in place just by tapes


#39

here its my explanation for the bad cooling. see the atached photo. only contact around the edges with CPU, with original pad im getting 73ºC in idle


#40

Hi @backon, do you have a picture of your new solution? I would like to get a sense how your new thermal pads look like.


#41

after test with original setup cooling . when i stress the CPU im getting 99 after 3 min. with thermal pad change i lowered it to 79 (20ºC less!!!) in full stress

remove aluminium block from CPU and peel the sticky pad

if you cant remove try with a knife and alcohol until its clean (alcohol makes easy the job)

remove the 3mm original pad

Cut the thermal pad to the aluminium block

in my case i cut 3 layers because its 1mm thick and i havent 1,5 mm pad

Remove protective foil and stick to the block

Remove the other side protective foil

Put the heat sink On CPU with pad under side

after this in my case its peel of the protective foil and stick on the top (remember i haver only 1mm so to make 2mm i sticked together) and put on the top

after this , close the router carrefully and check if it moves around checking visually from the side.


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